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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby 1malaysia » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:20 pm

danzer wrote:Hey 1malaysia, first you say that bumping and shoving nonsense are part of the game and should be kept that way. Now you say that marshalls should look into it and curb it. What the hell is your stand man?
I think you are the one who should go find a virgin because if i'm not mistaken, you are the one who start all this firing of profanities. Before you came along, we were all having a calm and peaceful exchange of suggestions. You could have just chipped in kindly but you had to start the profanity shootings. So who is the one who has no life and come and try to rile up the crowd here?
And dude, YOU are making me laugh while trying to act like you are some kind of top dog here. Without any names, you may just be some photography or some shit. Clearly you did not race in Pekan as you claim that you saw the incident between Ron and the TonyKart guy. So I repeat, why don't you reveal your big name and stop all this nonsense that you are like some racing god shit and I can't beat you in a million years.

And I find that mentioning names here is in a way quite good as it lets the kids know what people think of them and make them think of their actions on the track so that they will overtake more professionally. And not with the loser's method of shoving others off. Why can't more people be like Mikko and overtake with skill, not pushing others off.

Fei Hoong, I totally respect you as a driver as you are someone who is really good (unlike 1malaysia trying to act like a racing god) and a nice guy off the track. I have nothing against Ron as a person but as a driver I find he is too aggressive in overtaking and need to learn to overtake cleanly. From what I saw, the tonykart guy was defending ok until Ron tried to overtake too aggressively, outbraking himself, and going into the guy too hot.



Hello danzer,

anyway let's try to be as polite as possible here.

like i said before on that bumping and boring, shoving off whatever u call it in ur singaporean language (if u r), is entirely normal in some cases in Europe. But to make it common sense for you as an armchair bastard in karting, let me explain to u a little bit more.ofcourse bumping and boring (not sure even if u know what it means) is sometimes ok. a small bump is just to let u know that someone is faster at the back of u... and that guy is asking u to stop blocking and im coming to overake u soon or wtv.. but if he just bangs u for braking sake deliberately without overtaking the other person/or not going anywhere obviously it tells u that guy is just wanking at the back (maybe ur one of them) so the marshalls should look into it? On shoving people off, there are instant cases when the guy in front is blocking like an ass hole shit, so the guy behind cant stand it just push him out a bit.. again that can be normal on certain cases but let's leave it to the stewards and marshals im sure they know how to judge this.

if u can't stand this contact sport, i advice u to........

on firing of profanities or whatever it is called (my engrish not vely gud like this bloody singaporean), well i did it because u were mentioning these kids name and i think it's not right.. and even if u want to discuss about it.. u can do it face to face i advice u. Anyway it's a blog, u can be rude but as long as u lay out the facts people would love to read it. It's just wrong to mention people's name here, well it's a blog rite.. u like it?

And why are u making Mikko like a god now.. Im sorry mikko ur a nice guy and it has nothing gotta do with u as a person. Look [title] danzer if u want to drive like exactly the way mikko drive/overtake etc, believe me u will not go far. look at what happen to him in the world finals... or when he goes to a totally unknown circuit.. like i said before this is life, and if u want to be somebody like alonso etc, u just have to have that killer instincts or else u can end up driving for krs motorsport for the rest of ur life. not everyone has the same goal as mikko my dear. but anyway brother mikko, ur still a great guy, a great chap at the track someone we all love to talk to so please dont take this hard. and ur lucky enough to be sponsored by krs so good on u.

on your conversation with feihoong, again u r talking about some boy's driving and name... dude i think u have a problem man. even the boy can say it's a racing accident, but anyway it's ur opinion. but ron and most drivers on the grid usually has done 95% clean overtakings so far so why are u complaining so much, it's just one of the things rite... there are bad days of their overtaking too but most importantly like i said we want these boys to try but not forgetting that they have to make minimal mistakes too. so give them a breakkk la u kiasu TWAT. not that u can smell drivers like afiq, ron, mikko in the next race anyway... hopefully the slow bastards at the back will find u boring at the back.. u just yackyackyack.

anyway i watched almost every accident on the track at pekan... and u probably spent time worrying about other people and trying to fix ur kart because u keep on hitting the wall on ur own.. ;p

anywya i will get back to give u guys more information of these 10 secs etc..

thank you guys.
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby Mami » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:26 pm

Talking about kids racing and profanities, obviously they dun jive!!!

Take a rain check.
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby 1malaysia » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:33 pm

Mami wrote:Talking about kids racing and profanities, obviously they dun jive!!!

Take a rain check.


Haha.. sorry mate
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby 1malaysia » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:34 pm

1malaysia wrote:
Mami wrote:Talking about kids racing and profanities, obviously they dun jive!!!

Take a rain check.


Haha.. sorry mate


Hope none of the cadets read this!!
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby JohnKing6 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:51 pm

This has been an amusing conversation and I was going to avoid commenting but some of the comments about drivers who have nothing to do with the conversation and are being attacked has made me want to make a couple of points.

Guy summed up the rules very well. Karting is clearly a non-contact sport and any deliberate infringement of this should be punished. Even if it's not deliberate if contact is avoidable by one driver, then punishment should happen as well - in F1, people are often punished for an "avoidable incident". As Guy said, enforcing this is difficult but does need to be done and as long as rulings are consistent, then everyone should accept them.

In Europe any deliberate contact is heavily punished. In last year's Rotax Grand Finals, a Dutch boy took Nabil off in the last corner of the 2nd chance race to try to get a position in the final and was DQ'ed and fined Euro 500. So, don't think that European karting is dodgems - it's hard racing and contact happens but deliberate pushing IS NOT ALLOWED. The guys that get to F1 are hard racers but aren't the guys that push other people off the track - their teams and sponsors soon get fed up with the damage caused in single seaters by this kind of contact.

Now onto a couple of the comments about drivers:

Nabil. If anyone believes that Nabil wins RMC juniors just because he has an unfair advantage, please look at the results of his recent drives in Yamaha races. He's using a 2 year old engine rebuilt at the beginning of the year by Richard Lim and is consistently beating all of Richards driver's, including Aaron recently at a race we had at Elite. He's extremely smooth and consistent - that's why he wins.

Mikko. Is no god but is an excellent driver in any company. In the Grand Finals in UAE in 2007 he was right on the pace in the seniors until he got involved in someone else's accident in heat one and ended up with a bent, and therefore uncomptetitive, chassis. In 2008 the track conditions in Italy were so different to the ones we're used to in Asia it took a long time for anyone to find decent pace but I don't believe that anyone could have done any better.

What we need to develop world-class drivers is a lot less bickering and to develop an infrastructure where karters can develop and hone their skills in competitive and open races with governance which is consistent, professional and encourages people to race. Remember that apart from Nakajima who probably did some Yamaha racing in Japan when he was young, not a single F1 driver has come through the ranks of the karting formulas we support in Malaysia.... At the moment, the people that want to develop their talents have to look elsewhere - European or Japanese karting or other formulas so we lose our best talents at a much earlier age than we should.

I guess I've just opened myself up to some personal attacks but too bad - I'm pretty thick skinned :-) and very prepared to stand by my record both on and off the track.
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby RocK » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:12 pm

JohnKing6 wrote:drivers who have nothing to do with the conversation and are being attacked

back in the days it was so simple. no forums for the cry babies..

Imagine F1 drivers do forums after their race. I bet Barrichello has the top post.. :P
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby 2malaysia » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:45 pm

:P :lol: :blackeye: :mrgreen: :wink: :D
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby FeiHoong91 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:28 am

Haha okay sure danzer thanks for the compliments! Hmm well it could be a mix of both rons faults and the other guys but hey,Racing is damn shitty sometimes (>_>) specially last year for me...... ahhh anyway guys take a break from fighting each other haha gosh :D oh yeah john ill be back in kl tomorow! done meeting some movie people over here,will give u a call as soon as i land!
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby HK » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:09 am

FeiHoong91 wrote:wow guys chill!! :shock: ~_~,move to DD2 or something :P weve got really nice back bumpers to hit *jokes*


Yeah! I've try Feihoong's bumper last race! :mrgreen:
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Re: RMC RD4 Crash

Postby kymehallion » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:20 pm

Hi, If anyone would like to view the Crash in Round 4 follow the link below !


http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/vide ... 7281816773
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby Hiqmar Danial » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:13 pm

Hey guys relax man. Hahaha. If you guys wanna see what is race is all about come to RMC Final Round this 15-16 august. Cause Hiqmar Danial is back ! (the best of the best ) Peace Guys !

P/S; Im in the Junior Category.
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby FeiHoong91 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:31 pm

YEAY DANIAL! WOoHO! am i spamming Mico? hehehe :lol: No Noobies please this weekend :P


EDIT: for those who dont know what Noob means http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noob ,im so l33t i will pwnz you noobz this weekend :D jokin jokin
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby crg driver » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:29 pm

hiqmar ! ur going down man! u think ur so great,ur nothing man. nabil's way better than u,even silvano's better !!
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby Hiqmar Danial » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:58 am

Haha okay. we will see about it :D.Take Care CRG Driver.Have a good day :D
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Re: RMC RD5 2009

Postby Hiqmar Danial » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:01 am

crg driver wrote:hiqmar ! ur going down man! u think ur so great,ur nothing man. nabil's way better than u,even silvano's better !!


are you racing ? it'll be so good and a great pleasure if you are racing in the junior category :D Peace :D
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