[DMmotorsport]

Yes i can, and i allready did, in the beginning of this discussion.

I can Email it to you after i scratched some details, which you do not have premission to see.
As by agreements to the factory.

gr. Kristof

[RocK]

Is this topic about a sales or a informational post.

Kristof sounds like a salesman to me..

[David Goldman]

Agreed RocK,

Were not debating whether this brembo system is better than whatever system. Were saying that Mikko already shared his numbers, showing there is practically no difference. I dont know what you mean by bench, but if you mean dyno, then the dyno can lie. There can never be EXACTLY the same run twice in a row. The engine could have gotten cleaner better air, the chain could have been more or less lubricated, there is no way besides perfect numbers as mikko has showed us to determine this.

[DMmotorsport]

WOWOWOW, People...

Why should i try to sell ? In my case, for your Market, it's not even usefull to sell the Brembo's.. hahaha , for you MArket we use the APrace systems.

Why?=> very simple, these are cheaper, and because of the non-close competitionlaptimes, this does not even mather...

AND SOMETHING ELSE!! => this discussion did not start out of me, saying this; i only said (all in the beginning before th topic got splitted up): we use the brembo's cause they are the lightest system... no further dtails... and ofcourse i've got attacked by some people who have really felled like they get attacked on there SALES ...

Afterall, we speak about 0.01 seconds, .. not about seconds or minutes! cheezes, people...

Afterall, some people here are not in the position to reply a bit agrassive to my reply,
as they use a lot of other tricks and cheats to make there only SALES go high...

Afterall => if you don't want to excet any information from us, why don't you invite me and some of my friends to the highest level race out there.. and the other way around?
And than we can just chat and check out what we can learn from each other?

ciao, Kristof

[RocK]

why don't you invite me and some of my friends to the highest level race out there.. and the other way around?

sounds like a challenge..

[gp8]

Actually I think it sounds more like an offer!

There is no better way for improvement in any facet of the sport than exposure to the best - from elsewhere if necessary. Maybe what needs to be considered is:-
1. Officials school - in the UK and Aus they have seminars for training karting officials that provide the knowledge and guidance that assist in generating more consistent professional race management. I can't think of another sport that anywhere near as expensive as karting does not provide a formal training environment for the sports officials.
2. Tech shool - most other markets provide seminars on engine building / theory / scrutineering, data acquisition and analysis etc. This helps participants discern between what they believe to be true and what they actuall know to be true. Most of our major headaches in kart setup have been caused by following what is "believed to be true"
3. Driver development camps - again UK, US and Aus have driver development camps organised by their governing body that bring in the best of the best (sometimes from overseas) to assist in developing their cadet and junior driver development. Most of the ones we have seen run over two or three days.

I'd further suggest that bringing some key tech / skills folk in from top overseas teams to run a couple of day seminar / development camp may be just the catalyst karting in the region needs to really invigorate it. Otherwise, only the well connected and well funded boys/girls will have the opportunity of exposure to "the best"


Apologies for this being a little "off topic"!

[DMmotorsport]

US, Australia, UK ....

Karting scene is in hands of the Belgians, ITalians, Dutchmen... and now some Russian Drivers who live in Italy... or Belgium...

I do not completely understand what you said... I think you what you waqnt to say is to bring over some teams from our regions (EU) over there, to have some practicing days...

In my oppinion i think it will be a good idea to have a Meeting weekend somewhere between the seaasons in... to give oppertunity to teams to meet each other, talk with each other, and the same for their drivers... But i am sure iff, like for my team, it would worth the transport of a complete truck over sea's... it's not SOOOOO expensive, but still a lot of money... for maybe a 100 spectators... and then i am only talking about my team... the rest willl not even thinking about it... that's for sure

Ciao, Kristof
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