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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:39 pm 
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I never did try the RPM record feature....maybe its me but I see little value in that. Yes, they have indeed a limited memory when you on that mode and all previous data will be wiped out too.

If a DAG(data-acquisition guy) could have only one channel of information it would always be the RPM-trace. You can get a lot of info from the RPM trace. :D

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The Pro+ is cheaper than the Astro so it should have less features but I dun see that on their literature.....

Yeah I think the features were similar to the normal "Pro" with only a few things improved.


Agreed - if this is all I have.....sure an RPM trace is much needed but I think with all the channels we have at our disposal, this is no longer valid statement.

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Personally i think the Forecast lap time very useful because sometimes i want to try to take different lines and different techniques. So this systems some in handle. Well different strokes for different folks.:)

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Predictive (or forecast) Lap Timing is a feature that analyzes your driving and shows you early in each lap what it anticipates your lap time will be for the current lap. Very helpful for qualifying as you can see if it's worthwhile to burn up the tires on a fast lap or better to hold off until next lap.

I can see it usefulness in quali but not racing condition. But have to use it in real quali environment then i can comment whether gimmick or indeed useful.

review maybe in 2 weeks. gonna participate in a small local race. lets hope I get the system in time. getting it from CRG Asia. (going to the bank 2morow ya..)

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update on the Unipro - they're track-testing a G-force sensor so that should be out in a while. They've also got a prototype GPS sensor so that's in the future. Other things they're adding in the future include an infrared tyre temperature sensor (I assume real-time not just to record in pits), and a power-valve sensor (seen one of these on a factory tonykart so I assume pi-research).


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For Alfano user, VisualData v0.4.5 Beta was released on 27-07-2007

You can download and view the screenshots - Here

Looks way better then the older ver.. :o

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All this data-logging talk is making me annoyed that I don't have a laptop! :twisted:


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You dont need a laptop. Desktop is way more cool. 8)
Or get SHAP to invest in a server cabinet thingy
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AKA F1 style

Trust me, your rivals will be nervous as hell..

my Mychron4 + GPS is still in the box. not using it till i get my cabinet.. :rr:

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i got a unipro 6003. used it for the first time at the last round.

its awesome compared to the alfano... i was getting distracted by the speed display, was watching how fast i was going around corners.... the alfano didnt have this! very nice system.


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Aaron wrote:
i got a unipro 6003. used it for the first time at the last round.

its awesome compared to the alfano... i was getting distracted by the speed display, was watching how fast i was going around corners.... the alfano didnt have this! very nice system.


Aaron,

Pls compare how much u paid for the unipro and ur old Alfano. I am sure they are miles apart.

If you paid a bit more for the Pro PLUS or even ASTRO models from Alfano - you will have the speed feature as well.

Anyhow, I do not recommend looking at the speedo too much cos you are endangering FIRST other karters and last of all, YOURSELF.

Unless you were that slow.... :lol:

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How much is the Astro with temp+speed sensor going for in Malaysia?


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You dont need a laptop. Desktop is way more cool. 8)

Yes it is cool... but I can't be lugging it around to the track for every test session. :cry: I suppose you use the server box to send and receive data from your headquarters in Brunei when you're racing overseas, F1-style. :wink:


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I suppose you use the server box to send and receive data from your headquarters in Brunei when you're racing overseas, F1-style. :wink:

too much you think :?: :oops:

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Mikko Nassi wrote:
How much is the Astro with temp+speed sensor going for in Malaysia?


Mikko, I saw that the basic unit cost AUD600upwards and then you gotta add more $$$ for the sensors.

No one here sells it locally - as far as I know but maybe SHAP?

The guys I know who has it bought them abroad.....

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For AiM users, Race Studio v2.21.31 was released on 03-Aug-2007. Also available is Race Studio Version 2.22.02 beta, which adds support for Windows Vista.

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Mikko Nassi wrote:
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The Pro+ is cheaper than the Astro so it should have less features but I dun see that on their literature.....

Yeah I think the features were similar to the normal "Pro" with only a few things improved.


I believe the Pro+ is more similar to the Astro than the Pro. With regards to data aquisition, the Pro+ uses the same download pen and software as the Astro. The Pro uses a different download pen and cannot use the more advanced software.

In addition, the Pro+ has more data avaible in the dash than the Pro. The Pro+ shows the theoretical best lap, speed either by sensor or calculation, and has more flexibility in setup than the Pro. For example, you can change the number of magnetic strips and set which strip is the start/finish in the Pro+. I don't think this is possible with the Pro.

The Pro+ has less features than the Astro and thus the reduction in price. The main advantages to the Astro, as I understand them, are the addition of a gear indicator and the ability to add a g-force sensor. The lack of a g-force sensor means no track mapping for the Pro+.

From my limited analysis, the Pro+ compares favorably to a Mychron 4. The Mychron has the advantage of being more upgradable via the E-box or the GPS module.


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Thanks for update and analysis of the different Alfano models. Here's what I found out as well - in addition to what you have already stated.

Pro, has only one temp sensor input, one timing and rpm loop. You can select the numbers of magnetic sensors ( three max )....in short, almost all a starting karter can ask for. Best laptime in theory is visible on computer after a download of data...

Pro+, has in addition to the Pro model, one additional temp sensor input and also a speed sensor input. I have not used one but there are more warning lights which I expect will be for temperature. The literature shows also a rpm bar ( similar to Astro ) so maybe that's another feature above the Pro.

Astro, has all of the above ( but with more input points ie. temp & also more magnetic strip numbers ) plus G force sensor input and also a RPM lites above the display window.

I have the Pro for quite a few years and find it user friendly and nicely built. It does suffer from rare glich from time to time.....but perhaps its my unit.

Depending how u look at it, the Alfano being all in ONE unit ( unlike the UniPro, Aim Mychron 3 Gold & 4 with the E-box ) has its advantages of being more compact and less wires/jacks to go wrong.

Not seen a Lapcom in flesh so wun know how it looks like and goes.....for those who has one, please give a review!

By the way, I am stating the OBVIOUS here. Whilst its good to have data from these system - understanding, interpreting the data and translating this to chassis set up, gearing and driver style change is the MOST IMPORTANT of all. If you fail to do this - it's just an expensive ballast on ur kart..... :lol:


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