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 Post subject: KnK Karts
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:07 pm 
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Anyone have any ideas on Knk karts' long-term plans? I've never driven one but the performance of the karts doesn't seem to be too shabby in the Indian Rotax Max Challenge for example?

Do they hope to export racing chassis to other Asian countries?

Oh and also any idea how much the chassis costs, is it considerably cheaper than Euro-karts?

I just started thinking about KnK after writing the article on SQ.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:05 pm 
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Micki from KnK karts contacted me and hopefully he'll introduce himself in the forums later.

Here are a few pictures of on of their karts:
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The above kart with engine ready-to-go goes for about US$1,700 for export.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:56 pm 
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hmm slightly cheaper then SQ racing. base on just looking, SQ looks to have a better build packages.

i like how they mount their IR unit. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:06 pm 
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Thank you for inviting us to your forum, we will post information from time to time and we will be pleased to answer any questions your members might have. We manufacture more than 17 different types/models of karts for track and off road use.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:21 pm 
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any website to see more details?

looking for kart rentals types..


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:54 pm 
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The images of the kart that are posted are of the KnK Evolution AEX which is what we call a Race Rental or Rookie kart, it is built to be functionally strong since it would be used by several persons on a rental basis. There are other models of KnK rental and hire karts too.

Over the next few days we will send across some more images of race karts also.

We will be happy to respond to any questions you might have.

Our website is [url=http://www.knkkarts.com]www.knkkarts.com
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Micki - KnK Karts


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:03 pm 
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Mikko Nassi wrote:
The above kart with engine ready-to-go goes for about US$1,700 for export.


Mikko,
Any idea what sort of engine?....and perhaps some engine specs are avaiable. USD 1700 for a ready to go package is difficult to ignore.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:12 pm 
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Hey Guys,

If you are thinking of fooling around with a Kart, I rather you just buy the SQ kart. I have tried the India kart KNK from a rental place. Its horrible in my opinion. It could be a set up problem but this is what i experienced.

The steering was very heavy. Massive Understeer on it, it felt like i was rolling a lorry across the kerbs. Absolutely not worth anyone taking a consideration to them.

The engine that i was driving on the other time was a Honda 200cc engine if i was not wrong. But i can't be sure.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:37 pm 
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Yeah these are Rental karts so you can't be expecting race-kart like performance, and like Micki said they have 17 different models of karts so don't judge them from one kart only :) - I've tried TonyKart's rental karts and they aren't very racey either! But they DO have race karts as well, which have been raced in the Asia Max Challenge for example and their performance hasn't been too shabby at all, definitely no truckloads of understeer there!

Naza if I'm not mistaken it's with a Subaru 4-stroke engine. I think the price is probably if ordered directly from the factory and probably for more than a few units. :?:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:45 am 
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It is with some disappointment that I read the note posted by CRG Asia on July 11, 2007.

In our line of business we often times come across similar situations but our experience tells us that such cases are not indicative of the brand/product in any way.

There are tracks in India using KnK Karts purchased in 2000. The original karts have been modified and repaired by “local” mechanics, persons who invariably use spurious components with no consideration for material or safety. KnK have not sold karts fitted with the engines mentioned for at least the past 3 to 4 years, so we assume that these are old modified karts.

It surprise us that someone as distinguished as a CRG dealer bases his experiences in a rental kart which he suspects of poor set up or some other problem and makes statements of this nature. That he places such an experience to pass judgement of a brand across the board is a revelation.

There is only one KnK Annihilator driven by Rayomand Banajee racing in the senior Asia Max this year, we participated in rounds 1 and 2 but some difficulties kept us away from round 3 at Surabaya when Rayomand raced a rented Swiss Hutless. His current points standing has him second overall. He finished 14th in round 3 in a disadvantaged kart.

The KnK obviously performed sufficiently well in the first two rounds so he could maintain a respectable standing in the points after round 3.

The driver ahead of him drives a Tony.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:20 am 
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Hey Mikki,

Apologise on my words. As it is solely based on a rental Kart as that was the only time i came in contact with the brand. But if you say it may be good for the other models, i will have no arguement to that. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:35 pm 
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Yeah... even Razman had problem overtaking Banajee in Kota Bharu, AMC Round 1 and so does Mikko in India at AMC Round 2. Anyway Mikko did overtook Banajee in India to take 3rd place. So it's true the driver and kart goes together. Banajee drove the rented SH Vinto and he was not slow either in Surabaya. Only Mikko had a bad luck when the clutch failed on him.

Maybe Banajee would be able to give a fair view.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:06 pm 
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I've invited Banajee over to the forums :D I think they're racing this weekend though so hopefully next week he'll write his thoughts.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:50 pm 
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I read with interest on the discussion about Rayomand Banajee driving a disadvantaged kart in Surabaya. First and foremost, if I am not mistaken Rayomand IS OFFICIALLY a KnK driver. He drove it in Kota Bharu and then back in India. During the race in India whether he was unfortunate that his engine or kart did not performed, he was overtaken by Mikko Nassi who finished in front of him. However, if there is anything to go by, Rayomand promptly bought and paid for the Swiss Hutless Magic chassis as well as the Max engine which Mikko used after the race. I think this speaks volume of the kart and engine. In Surabaya, Rayomand used a 4 years old Swiss Hutless Vinto and he did well in the QTT, heats and Pre-final. In the final he had a bad start from the pits because there was a problem with his carburettor. However when he got started, he managed to close up on the leaders. This could be due to his skill as a driver and possibily partly due to the good handling characteristics of the Swiss Hutless chassis.

I feel that this forum is a good avenue to discuss things but would certainly advised everyone using this forum to refrain from running down anyone or equipment. By doing it, then this forum will not be used as a means to discredit anyone or company.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:59 pm 
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james maybe micki meant that rayomand had carbie problems in the final when he said "disadvantaged kart"? might be only a bad choice of words not meant to discredit swiss hutless?


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