[RocK]

Thank you Alonso.

I was falling asleep watching the quali till you woke me up.
We have an on and off track racer again. I'm sure Schumi liking it

[Mikko Nassi]

You're up late.

I was rofl about that!!! See Dennis rip the ear-muffs off Alonso's trainer? That was classic. It was just so obvious that "hello lewis won't make it if you sit there doing nothing for another few seconds with the lollipop man waving at you to leave"

It was so funny with everyone in the Mclaren garage looking a bit akward - after a 1-2 in qual!

As to who's to blame... I dunno. Could be that someone on the radio told alonso to hold position but I can't see what for.

[RocK]

I skip the Live on Starsport and waited for iTV on RTM2

I think its all Alonso doing.
Ron Dennis looks like a X girlfriend then a Team boss.

$10 I say Alonso gets an extra longer fuel stop later.. any takers

[Mikko Nassi]

Dennis blames Hamilton - on Autosport. I think he's covering up to avoid a penalty to Alonse.

I just don't get it - why not let Alonso out a few seconds early and tell him to slow down if there really was some magical gap he could get into by waiting 10 seconds. That magical "gap" ended up being right in front of Kimi Raikkonen in the first corner with Kimi starting his fast lap.

"When you are in the pitlane they maybe tell you to slow down for five seconds so that the Williams can go past, and then you go out; you've got clean air. They don't tell you to wait on the spot."

[RocK]

Yeah your rite, Dennis is an expert in cover-up for his drivers from penalty.
He did well for his team too. ahem*spycase*ahem

From iTV - Full Story Here

Dennis said it was Hamilton’s failure to stick to the agreed procedure during the fuel-burning phase of Q3 that was the catalyst for the delay.

“We have various procedures within the team and prior to practice we determine how it is going to be run, what our strategy is, and how that’s going to be enacted on the circuit,” he said.

“They were out of sequence because Lewis should have slowed and let Fernando past,” he said.

“And he didn’t. He charged off. That’s how we got out of sequence.”

Dennis explained that the plan was for Alonso to complete an extra fuel-burning lap and that Hamilton had been told to let him past to facilitate this.

“In this instance, it was Fernando’s time to get the advantage of the longer fuel burn,” he said.

If that the case, Its Alonso pay back to Lewis then. If its was really Lewis fault, why go haywireon Alonso trainer..

[HoosierDaddy]

Wow! 5 grid positions for Alonso.

And no points for McLaren for the race.

[Aaron]

Alonso is proving to be a real loser.

[RocK]

Wow FIA, this u punish. Having rival documents you dont. Whats going on..

[Mikko Nassi]

I think having the documents thing in the air made it easier to punish.... somehow I think they will get the constructors points back after appeal though.

The stewards must've found out from the Radio Communications there was a bit more going on than Ron let on.... aha
.... the stewards report HERE

Reference to the circuit map shows that at the time Alonso was told he would be held for 20 seconds there were but 4 cars on the circuit, his own and those of Fisichella, Hamilton and Raikkonen. All but Raikkonen entered the pits such that there can have been no necessity to keep Alonso in the pits for 20 seconds waiting for a convenient gap in traffic in which to leave.

RocK remember the FIA dudes at the court are completely different from the race stewards at the track in Hungary.

[Iskandar]

I think it was smart, yet devious and unsportsmanlike...that's what you get when so much is at stake for drivers and their support teams.

[Alex Ritchie]

The fact that McLaren was penalised, as well as Alonso, probably means that Alonso was acting on his engineer's instructions...

Pretty stupid set of events for the whole team.

[RocK]

Spy-case is getting to them..

Its hard to see Alonso staying at McLaren till 09. Race by race he looks more unhappy with the team.

[JohnKing6]

Spy-case is getting to them..

Its hard to see Alonso staying at McLaren till 09. Race by race he looks more unhappy with the team.

Correct, and he might also find that his car really isn't as quick as Hamilton's if the championship gets really close. McLaren want to have No 1 on their car next year

[HoosierDaddy]

The fact that McLaren was penalised, as well as Alonso, probably means that Alonso was acting on his engineer's instructions...

In this case, Mclaren was penalized for lying to the stewards.

Short version of events:

In Q3 the order the drivers circulate in gives one a slight fuel advantage. McLaren alternates drivers from race to race.

Hungary was Alonso's turn to have the advantage but Hamilton usurped it against repeated team orders over the radio.

Alonso got even by making Hamilton miss his last lap.

Afraid the stewards would penalize Alonso and cost McLaren the front row, Dennis made up a bull$#@^ story of what really happened.

The Stewards didn't buy it. The Penalized Alonso for holding up Hamilton. They penalized Mclaren for the bull$#@^ story.

[RocK]

Yea, Dennis been doing alot of bull$#@^ story on the spycase too

If Dennis didn't made a big show with Alonso trainer, i would guess FIA wont take any action..