[STEEL]

The function of the ASN and it official in every country is to govern, help, encourage, promote and grow the motorsports.

In Malaysia, the AAM motorsports manager is doing the reverse. He behaves as if the motorsport division is his own fiefdom and he is there to lord over it. He dO not remember he is just a salaried employee and not the owner. Without the members he would not be there and the members help to contribute to his salary.

With his behaviour and unhelpful attitude, he did not deserve to be at his present position. He does not own it. Most of the karters and motor riders are very unhappy with his unfriendly behaviour.

We, the member of AAM motorsport should get together to petition to Tuanku, to get rid of the tyrant.

I hope all members will extend a hand to make this a success.

[Mikko Nassi]

You're planning to stage a coup of the AAM motorsports department?

[OLDKARTER]

hmmmmm

[Jules]

a wiseman told me once - "better to have more friends than enemies".

maybe you can share the matter/issue(s) which made u start this thread, specifically with us....and see if some of us can help? Genuine intent here.

btw, since he is so long in AAM, he will surely have Tunku's ear more than u n me! sad but highly plausible!

[OLDKARTER]

If what Steel says is true , then this is a serious issue. The best body to look into this is the CIK. But only after Tuanku has been notified. It is only fair to take one step at a time and giving Tuanku the respect.

There has been many whispering around for some years now and not just in karting but in general all motorsports sanctioned by AAM. Its just that someone took it seriously and posted on this forum.

But sorry ,I doubt you will get any support from this forum. Nobody wants to lose his/her licence.

There has been much talk that MAM should be handling this. Dont forget AAM Motorsport is a SDN BHD. Technically this is wrong. Imagine JPJ sdn bhd , immigration sdn bhd , Maybe its time MAM takes over.

[Rolf19]

After what I have experienced last week-end in Indonesia,the karters in Malaysia should be very happy with what they have.
There is always some room for improvements,even in Malaysia.But I am sure issues that are brought up correctly will be addressed and solved by the responsible organizations/persons in Malaysia.

They respect and enforce the published rules and regulations.

Keep it this way,no need to change.

[STEEL]

Rolf, I think you missed the point. It is not that we are unhappy about the way the race is being ran. We are unhappy with the haughty attitude of the motorsport manager.

Heard that he refused to issue international licence for some drivers who would like to participate in AMC in Indonesia. When some of the parent would like to see him and make an appeal, he refused to see them. The least he could do is to hear them out and give them the reasons for not issuing the licence.

As member of AAM motorsport, we have every right to see him and he should not refuse. By refusing, he thinks that he own the organisation and not an employee of it.

[Rolf19]

Steel,it's difficult to make judgements without knowing all the facts.

I have also heard about the issue on licenses for the AMC race in Indonesia.From what I have understood there is a regulation which did not allow AAM to issue a release letter for certain drivers.

From my point of view,I rather have regulations enforced than seeing what happened in Indonesia.This principal applies for race organizers and also governing bodies.

If the regulation in question needs a review is another issue.I believe this will be adressed by the responsible persons .But as long as the current regulations are the valid ones,enforcement is ok.

How the enforcement is done is again a different story.I do believe this is the real issue.

Consider also the job of AAM is not always easy and if there is a case where AAM is asked to violate their own regulations,people in AAM may not always respond in the most polite way.

No questionmark on the principle that AAM should be accessable for all members.The conclusion why in this specific case it did not happen is for me a little too drastic.

[Alex Ritchie]

I have no intention of writing on behalf of AAM but I would like to point out that the condition for a "C" international license is at least 12 races without incident - 6 races as "novice" and 6 as "national". Parents who want to upgrade their children's licenses should consider this, so novices should apply for upgrading to national as soon as they have completed 6 races and not at the end of the year.

What usually happens is that parents wait till the end of the year before upgrading. In this way it would take at least two years before a novice can qualify for international "C".

[DMmotorsport]

Maybe besides the story.... (MAYBE)...
But this rule for sure is nessacary ! We seen a lot of youngsters running for ONLY 2 years in karting without any lessons, and than hit the BIG races... for me this is no good idea...
We've seen many many many... it's not only the performance you need to learn as a beginner...
BUT, the most important issue is to learn about safety... mecanics.... rules... AND for sure PLAY IT BY THE RULES .... if everyone go work out of the rules/regulations... you'll kill this sports...

By putting the rule of 'upgrade' each several races by the AAM, or either which organisation or ASN, we can have a better view on the situation and experience of each driver... in personal....

No rules => No karting.... that's for sure

Ciao, Kristof

[Rolf19]

Kristof,

I believe you hit the right point : No rules >>> No Karting.

And even more important : No EQUAL enforcement >>> No Karting.

Last year Calvin had a DQ in AMC/RMC 1,which cost him a place in the World Final.
Brendan had a DQ in the Pekan Pre-Final which cost him the MicroMax Asia and Malaysia Championship.

But I rather see the rules enforced with these consequences instead of seeing what happened in Indonesia during AMC2.

I was impressed last year during the Invitation Race in Sepang when dispite being pressured from the Sponsors,the stewards in Malaysia upheld their decission to DQ drivers have infringed the regulations.Even if these drivers were coming from teams supported by the sponsors of the event.

It's a tough decission,but a professional one and shows the high level which kart racing has reached in Malaysia.

Keep it this way.

[DMmotorsport]

Rolf1,

I don't know what you exactly mean ... not to attack you !!
bu my english is probably not good enough... i'm sorry..

Anyway, when somebody got disqualified, there is probably a reason for it...
IF an organizer also supporting a team, and let this team win all the time... then
the other teams will quit... so in my oppinion there is nobody inb Malaysia willing to do this...
I'd rather like to hear names, as than it would be more clear to me... because i was not following
100% ... and my appologies for that...
The only thing i want to say is that there are maybe drivers: AND in my oppinion, you got the racing
blood and talent OR you DON'T ... AFTER that it's training and training and training... and ofcourse the budget to do...
BUT for the fathers of the drivers AND some drivers themself, when theu don't win, or whatever goes wrong...
-> everything is bad except for the driver him self... which is in MOST of the situations like that !
So, when a driver get disqualified, there will be a reason for it...

I have hear different stories, from different championships in Mal, Singap. and Indounesia....
I've heard people cheating on things which are so obious... using 24mm carb in KF3....
Using Airfilter with 30mm inlet on KF2 , and so on and so on.... I think, when everybody play by
the rules, and FIRST look at yourself as being a driver.... than there won't be discussions like this...

right?

Kristof

[Mikko Nassi]

Kristof you misunderstood slightly I think - Rolf was just simply saying that the scrutineering has been very good in Malaysia (when a DQ was warranted there was a DQ).

[Rolf19]

Kristof,I agree with your point on Driver Development and Parent "Support".

My point is that in Malaysia for RMC and AMC (the kids don't race ROK or Yamaha),I have seen
rules and regulations enforced.And I support this,even if my own kids are penalized.
Brendan for example got a DQ because of a wrong fuel filter.I guess there is no performance advantage with a non Rotax filter,but the regulation says very clear only original filter can be used.

And the enforcement is not only during scrutineering.It's also how the races are run and in other governing organizations like AAM.It's sometimes tough decisions,but I think they are taken for the good of Karting in Malaysia.

So what was the difference in Indonesia ?.During the Junior race there was a major crash while the race was not even started.I do blame the lead drivers,they did not go into a formation lap after the warm-up lap.Some more sensible drivers in the midfield put up their hands and tried to get a formation going.But with the lead drivers not slowing down,this was impossible even with the red lights still on.When the COC put out the red flag at the start-finish lane,the lead drivers slammed immediately on the brakes and karts behind them started flying.

With a couple of karts damaged,the race start was postphoned.At first for only 1 race until re-start,later postphoned to more later and afterwards to the next day.

Clearly not in line with Paragraph 21 of the Regulation which says for starting procedure :
- COC may stop procedure by means of red flag if he/she is not satisfied with the formation
- A new procedure will begin immediately or within 30 minutes depending on circumstances.

It would have been possible to start immediately a new procedure or latest within 30 minutes.
Why this did not happen ? Your guess is as good as my guess.

After it was publicly announced Junior Heat 1 is postphoned to Sunday morning,quite a couple of Juniors left.The Programe of the day ended on time.Quite surprisingly,after the track was closed according to the programe,a few Junior Drivers were on track for a practise session.

Why there was a Junior Practise Session and not the Heat 1 is again anybody's guess.

It turned out,2 Juniors have changed their chassis which is against Paragraph 12 Scrutineering.
Despite the fact that not all Juniors signed the petition to allow them to change their chassis,they went out with a new chassis.I was surprised to see these 2 Drivers on the Podium for the official AMC 2 podium ceremomy.

There were at least 3 regulations not enforced and I am quite sure none of this would have happened in Malaysia.

[DMmotorsport]

Yes yes, now i understand ...
For sure i understand what you mean, and i think this has also maybe to do with the experience of the
race'promotor' like we call it in Europe... We have the organizer... but all races have 1 promoter..
this promotor will arrange all facilities at the track, like stewards flags... lights.. whatever you need...

also, when you are in a hurry, and you need to chassis, than you would also like to change chassis, not?

BUT, on the other hand; like you say: No 2nd chassis = no 2nd chassis... regulations is regulations...
ALSO, about the starting-procedure, in Europe (like WSK) we got controlled by camera...
but i can tell you: NOT 1 heat starts without having someone crossing frol his grid position before Green light... and the same as you tell: red light off... some start fair, some don't... AND not always on perpose
=> even in F1 it's like that (Alonso, last weekend, remember?)


Ciao, Kristof
DMmotorsport